Im still unconvinced that it is bad form. The rest of my team backed away slowly when the work landed on my lap.). He became legendary and it always lightened the tone of the email. This whole discussion is fascinating to me, because at my current job please advise is used a lot. Yeah, those are not please advise situations! })(window, document); 2023 TextRanch, LLC. Just kidding. I dont think its such a terrible phrase until someone inevitably writes please advice. I use cheers too, but its OK because Im British :). how do you handle being pregnant at work? People do notice that. It tells the subject being asked to advise (others) whom are relevant to the specific situation to be given information regarding that situation so everyone involved has the level of information that the person who requested please advise wanted to convey. 0. yeah I agree. I can literally count on one hand the number of times I have received a phone call without advanced notice from a colleague. When it comes to email, how else are meaning and tone created other than via word choice? Please advise. Could be some weird cultural tick at my company, so its not like that everywhere. Me: OK, Ill pick some and have a draft for you to review next week. Thats right up there with customer service people who say Can I help whos next in line? Fingernails on the chalkboard, that phrase. To me the gentle reminder reads as Pease dont be mad at me, but I need to remind you of [xyz]., How about friendly reminder? Thanks! 2. Im rapidly coming to that conclusion as well. I used to find it irritating and then people I work with started using it more so there was no point in being irritated. - Artwork will be emailed to you as a high quality 150dpi JPEG. Heavy metals may block chemical reactions. Yes the way it grates on me is when I get a message that says please advise, I take time to actually give a suggestion or remedy, and then either hear nothing or find out that they did whatever they wanted anyway without actually listening to my advice. I dont see it as passive aggressive at all. I sometimes use Your thoughts? for the same thing. E.g, the change request you sent me is asking for A and B. Just a reminder that I needed X when you get a chance. Half the kids in the class were keeping track of how many times she said it. Early in my job I would give people way, WAY more information than necessary in emails before I realized that this can be offensive and its almost always better to use the minimum information necessary for clarity (not that that is necessarily easy to determine, but as a goal). Although if I usually stop by to ask a question I always open with, Hi do you have a minute? so they can tell me if its not a great time to drop by and maybe come back five minutes later. Ive been trying to figure out what it is about phrases like this that bugs me. Please let me know when it is complete. She still did not understand. Its really meaningless in this context, like How are you? when youre walking past someone and neither of you is going to stop and really talk about How You Are. Perhaps it depends on which way the statement is flowing? The forms probably include them by default just like they do name or address or ZIP code . Its so delightfully vague! However, I also think that in many cases, people like to use fancier language in writing because they think it makes them look smarter or more professional or something. Try these: Yes, Wednesday suits me fine? Ill ask for advice, input, and/or guidance, but never with that hated two-word statement. please advise to me is still quite demanding and says. Consider following us @archetype_origins on Instagram for more content, we post on a regular basis. The phrase that I always hated was make sense? at the end of an email from a former Director. For some reason, were constantly begging our lawyer to (pretty) please (and only should the stars align to create no personal inconvenience to him) advise (on this legal matter with respect to which were paying him a hefty fee). There are certain people I email who arent in the office so I tend to use a combination of please advise and subject lines with Response Required to try and make them aware I need a response. I dont like gentle reminder either, but I think prefacing this kind of request with Just a reminder without the gentle is not a bad idea. Well, this post has made me accept that at any given time Im probably using an email line that makes the recipient want to punch me in the face. I think that phrases that only occur in print, like this one, lend themselves really well to misreading and speculation because weve never heard another person utter them out loud and for that reason can only speculate on the tone. I occassionally use please advise if I think the reader may miss various points in my email that is actually a question. However, the flight I was supposed to send it on was cancelled. Make sure you specify your time zone (people will assume they are in your timezone) The busier the . Like, if Im asking my manager a question, Id say Hey manager, this is the thing thats happening, what do you want me to do with that? but if I was emailing the CEO with a variety of other senior staff copied, Id say Here is the situation please advise. I could see how it might seem snotty when used in a situation that doesnt call for it, like youre being faux respectful. And please let me know when his lawyer gets here. But obviously it struck a nerve with me, because Ive been thinking about it all day. Because it's a special occasions. No need to be weirdly deferential. Also updated EXPENSE sheet I mean, we all have our pet peeves, but deciding that someone is a rude jerk based on a single turn of phrase just seems unnecessary. I dont think I would even know what that meant. Yes, when I read this question, my first thought was that I use it as sort of a sign-off after having gotten deeply into details. *other English-speaking nations have their own usage or slang, [dont know where the rest of that sentence went]. She did not last very long in that job anyway. But she would write EmilyG, there is no copier paper left, do you know where to order some? In many workplaces, as several have mentioned, Please advise takes on other connotations. I regularly use please advise and reading this question made me so upset! Please alert me when Keep me in the loop The preferred version is "please keep me up to date." It's still a strong, polite phrase because we start with "please." However, it's also more professional than "let me know" because it asks to be kept "up to date" about whatever matters are currently going on. So, friendly reminder is not good to use? I admit its hard sometimes giving people the benefit of the doubt especially if they are bratty in person! Or at least there have been, everywhere Ive worked. So, I figured, maybe Im explaining this badly. This. I think the reason I hate it though is because usually, its not my job to advise the people who are asking me to advise them. If you feel the organization is still interested in my application, please let me know as soon as possible and we can discuss how best to move forward. Most of the time its more junior staff and they dont realize the annoying-ness. If I didnt have please advise to fall back on, Id have to quit my job. TBC, I only use that when Im really looking for general thoughts, and dont necessarily have a specific question. From coworker A, I dont give it a second thought. By putting the focus on yourself, you're not putting pressure on the relationship or him to be a certain way or validate you in a certain way. Same goes for meeting invites received out of the blue with no brief description at all. Would people be shocked? Personally, I never end my emails with Please advise. It just is not my style and I dont like how extremely formal it feels. Please let me know which option you prefer 6,500 results on the web Some examples from the web: So will you please let me know . if you will. Im an American living in the UK and I cant even count how many times someone has walked me across a room because I keep backing away as they enter my personal space while talking to me. 2) People who hijack an email thread for an entirely different topic. I think it takes work to infer anything other than whats written in a work email. The issue is that they want to find a delicate way, which implies I dont think you can handle a straightforward mention that Im still waiting on this. The desire to more delicate than that is what grates. }; Please note that 1-4 phrases are more formal than phrases 5 & 6. Idk, it just seems like the nicest default sign-off. Although I usually prefer let me know what you think since I know please advice grates on some people. Every time I get an email that ends with please advise I want to send one back that says I advise you to stop ending your emails with please advise! That is the most annoying phrase ever! Do they already have cause the be upset with you? The worst manager I ever had was constantly misinterpreting my text and she kept claiming that I was sending angry emails. I cant remember. You need to say, at the end of the sentence, what it is you want both of you do. I think this blog needs a new topic category called over thinking it. Please advise. So because of that, it does signal impatient and demanding to me. Perhaps that had something to do with the fact that she was always out of the door exactly at 5pm, at that time it is always daylight here, and even though she kept promising she would come in for a night shift once to get an understanding of what it was like, she never followed through on that promise. Gentle Reminder.Grrrr makes me want to smack the sender. Feel free to let me know in the comments! Its super formal feeling, but Im told that literally everything else will be misinterpreted by someone. I have used the kindly requesting bit. I'm definitely trying to be polite! HOW many for the sales summit in new YORK of these changes. If anyone is taking routine email language as demanding and bratty etc., its on them. Im a little behind. A message that was truly friendly wouldnt need to be softened, so when you get a heads up that should be a non-issue but its been thoroughly bubble wrapped it can come across that the sender is making a big deal about it and that has frustrating implications. The second option sounds like the sender is fed up. Itd be a big category. Theyve usually established themselves as ineffective and rude, and in those cases, nothing they say will be not-annoying :), Yes! It is a shame April Fools Day has just been and gone, because you could have sent out a great email I am no longer going to be answering the question Can I ask you a question. To contact us using our Shipt app: Tap the account icon.Mar 9, 2020 . We can either 1) switch to white chocolate 2) continue with milk chocolate or 3) form a team to identify new chocolate options. I think part of what gives it that differing connotation is who is essentially armed in the conversation. I had a co-worker who would do that! It just hangs without a conclusion. But I think thats why he did it. usually its tasks related to a larger thing theyve agreed to. People tend to use it when wrapping up to indicate, Can you give me your thoughts on this? or How should I handle this? I dont think its in any way intended to be demanding its just a wrap-up to the message. I think rocky relationships with colleagues and/or managers can have someone interpret all correspondence with some level of snark, condescending, shouting, bossy etc in tone even if it is genuinely not the case. No need to rub the needful in! If I have a specific question, and I know the recipient is either really busy or prone to scanning emails, Ill usually state the question and then bold it. It was at that point I realised, it is not my explaining that is the problem here. Can you please answer one of the 4 emails or 2 voicemails on this topic? And you could argue that business email is its own special little dialect. Yeah, I use it when I cant think of one single question Im asking, but rather Im looking for someones take on how to handle a situation. Although to be honest, if Im sending my boss an FYI email I usually indicate that. Thats more of a benign request. I also use it infrequently. Did we actually want to purchase this item? Serve the menfolk first? No errors on these teapots. It comes across as condescending to me. Ive never heard sleeps in the US. I kinda think its a bit bitch eating crackers myself. I recieve emails like shipping updates a lot of the time and Ive defaulted to saying Thanks! because I dont know what else to say, even though theres not really anything Im thanking them for. Need to use the refresh button a bit more frequently. Philomena, Im like, I know all these options, however, the person I was emailing also knows all these options and knows which would be the best combination of cost effectiveness and timeliness. Yes, my grandmother who was born in the late 1800s as a young woman worked in the field all day and then at lunch break the men stretched out under a tree while she and other women served them lunch and then everyone went back to work. Register to get your text revised right away for FREE . Heh, I have seen it used that way, now that you mention it. for some reason i picked up the phrase from there and now i find myself using it all the time, in texts and facebook messages and tweets. I always get back with the tardy person and ask them if they need something else/anything before they can reply. So we just print single-sided for them. This. Its sort of a crowd control thing. I hear this about bless your heart all the time. It drives me REALLY batty. The one that drives me nuts is VR. Dont ask why, it makes no logical sense, it just makes my skin crawl. It feels like a power play. That seems really rude; after all, Im the one who is requesting the call so I should do the dialing. That one bothers me, too! It openly pisses people off. It feels like I am being asked for my expertise, my opinion, my knowledge. How should I handle your request? That comes off as way more snarky/passive-agressive than please advise. 0. s.src = "https://cdn.iubenda.com/iubenda.js"; English (US) "please let me know a time that is convenient for you" or "please let me know what time is convenient for you" sounds more natural, but yes, this is polite. I have since found it an excellent catch-all phrase for any occasion. Thanks, Persephone! 3. Especially Es. Yeah, I used to work at a company that had outsourced a lot of its work to India. JMO of course. or Request you to note the dates and let us know way forward. Please let me know how you would like to proceed. Me too. im consistently surprised/fascinated by the responses i read here, and its why ill never be able to stay away. Im pretty sure all 200,000 plus employees at my company use it regularly! Id never used the phrase please advise at the end of an e-mail until Current Job. Please click the link that we've sent to this address to post your question to our experts.Ok, I'll check my email. Over the past year you have been a valued customer. I have done that one. As part of the ping-pong conversation, maybe you want to say YES. Also, Im hungry and mostly thinking about lunch. This gives me more confidence that the context will be correct, which is hard to trust with auto-correction apps", A real person editor is much2 better than a software editor. (We know people are not a statistic, so please let us know about any mistakes). Its common radio etiquette when you dont want to reveal to everyone on that channel sensitive information regarding your business. It definitely gets results. We wouldnt say Please advise out loud, because we know how it sounds. Please let me know if he gets any worse. Because it makes perfect sense in Spanish . How may I help you? or even Next in line, please., I have fortunately never heard that phrase , but I suspect that somewhere along the way Whos next? got combined with I can take/help the next customer in line (or something similar), Ok, I can see that. Thats exactly how it strikes me. How do you feel about putting those words in bold instead? I feel like I am being summoned. If I have to remind you again, it wont be so friendly. Want more FREE revisions? (Probably including every time Ive written in.). In most cases, I find that the person writing this at the end of an email already asked me a question in the email. Makes my blood boil. So dont do drugs. Since that is what you actually want to know, couldnt you ask what are the options here? instead of please advise? Sometimes Ive had people reply with Do I need to know more? or Is there more? and then we can have a conversation about that, rather than me give them a long monologue without checking in with them first to make sure they want to know more. ooooo! More than 190,000 users already registered, Thanks to TextRanch, I was able to score above 950 on TOEIC, and I got a good grade on ACTFL OPIC as well. Shed been told about that by other staff, so I reminded her of that event, and then said, this is one reason the parking procedure was put in place. I almost never use it but I did a couple of weeks ago, because Hello? Kinda reminds me of getting a message from the Dean of Students, Please report to my office at your earliest convenience, without fail, I use quick reminder. if you wish. LOL I read it as some character from a Disney movie about to break into song. I was thinking this too. If it sounds normal and polite out loud, I think its fine to use in an email. ", I love being able to see the tracking of the changes! See a translation. Uh oh. (I am so immature. Yikes, I learned to do this when I worked in a law firm and often end emails this way. Well, often the reminder (friendly, gentle, otherwise) is for something totally annoying and bureaucratic, which no one wants to deal with, which is why they didnt respond in the first place. I just went around her because it was quicker and easier. I dont throw please advise to everything. I can see how it might be annoying if overused. 8. This is my question. I just mean I normally expect people to help me help them, by either spelling out the issue, and ideally by proposing at least one potential solution. If you dont have the friendliest relationship with that person, their please advise can sound snippy. I agree it is annoying to listen to. I resent our new hires for setting better work-life boundaries than our company normally has, hairy legs at work, my office sent me a random TV, and more, heres an example of a great cover letter with before and after versions, my employee cant handle even mildly negative feedback, my new coworker is putting fake mistakes in my work so she can tell our boss Im bad at my job, insensitive Diversity Day, how to fire someone who refuses to talk to us, and more, weekend open thread February 25-26, 2023, assistant became abusive when she wasnt invited to a meeting, my coworkers dont check on people who are out sick, and more. Then, if you ask me to please advise as to whether I agree with your proposed next steps, I am indeed happy to advise. Its when they say call me, especially from someone senior. I admit that Im sometimes inclined to send a not-so-gentle reminder by the time Im sending the xth reminder. Or something to that effect. (I am a webmaster for many sites at my University, and a lot of times people from a department want me to do something to their site that is in conflict with ADA compliance/branding initiative/common sense, so if they dont take no for an answer when I explain why we cant do it that way, I bring in another person of influence, like my boss or someone in charge of university-level site compliance, or the persons own department chair, etc., and then explain the request, the problem with the request, and explain that Im trying to resolve the matter. Remember to use a valid email address. } else if (w.attachEvent) { I lay out the problem and then ask for advice. Please advise.. If kids notice this stuff, its going to be even more obvious to adults. I agree with the response, the person is merely probably wrapping up the email. Ive also been using it fairly often as well. Get perfection for short pieces of text in just a few minutes. Because of this, I loathe the phrase please advise and refuse to use it. Thats fine. We're pretty excited about this feature, so please let us know how it works for you. Running errands: I have to get the needful done. Its shorthand for I acknowledge that Im asking a lot of you, and I am really grateful that you are doing this especially since Im not paying you and its probably a big inconvenience. I guess Im being petty at this point but I think there are so many better ways to communicate with people. They havent been out plowing the fields; theyve been sitting under the picnic shelter in the shade with the rest of us! tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s, tag); And with current technology, this is pretty easy to do. or 2. "Please let me know if otherwise" is a grammatically correct phrase that you can use in a professional setting. We dont have a parking procedure. I resisted the urge to bang my head on her desk. Often, one person or department will need to make a decision that effects my clients. Please advise. I wouldnt mind this. Sometimes Id be copied in as a courtesy, other times someone was expecting an answer from me, and sometimes I was supposed to understand that I should NOT reply even if I knew the answer (because of the political implications of the message, the people on the email chain, etc.). I always felt like my reaction was unreasonable, but its definitely a strong one! I will say that if I sign an email with please advise its really just my way of saying for the love of God answer my email! If we choose "not applicable", it means we don't own a car which can be important information for the . Im too stupid to even attempt to determine what the next course of action might be, so Im not even going to suggest anything. Two women went shopping and they decided to buy a jacket. I frequently have to exchange e-mails with attorneys who are fairly high up the food chain. Sentence examples similar to let me know your preference from inspiring English sources. Like the President will be here presently? Second is and I swear this is just coincidence and not meant specifically towards you how Americans cant get that other English-speaking nations slang that sounds perfectly fine to them. I use that a fair amount but I use it collaboration, when Ive formed a plan and want to run it by one or two others because I literally want to know if my plan makes sense. There are just so many styles and approacheswithout tone, its really not worth getting upset over. 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