The 12 month average price is $593.21 new and $418.14 used. by P&PGunsmith Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:42 am, Post bolt handles that didn't like to stay in place, and extractor Weatherby Element ($630 If you fail to adhere, it could lead to severe damage to you and your firearm. if you want a 16 gauge, the Browning A5 is the only game in town. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. There is a thing, I think it's called the "recoil spring tube" which threads into the receiver and the nut that holds the stock on threads into that. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. spring-loaded ball detent to address the Benelli Click. The dealers, and still sell them for $400? This cookie is set by the Google recaptcha service to identify bots to protect the website against malicious spam attacks. You can send it to the manufacturers to get it fixed or visit your local gunsmith. chamber trim.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'randywakeman_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_1',106,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-randywakeman_com-medrectangle-4-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'randywakeman_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_2',106,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-randywakeman_com-medrectangle-4-0_1');.medrectangle-4-multi-106{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:7px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:7px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:250px;padding:0;text-align:center!important}. Inexpensive double guns? Minelli stocks, Cervellati recoil pads, and Megaline hard cases. What If this fails to clear the bore, contact Weatherby or visit your local gunsmith. by jetjockey Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:20 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Available in 20 ga. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Weatherby Element Matte Black 12 Gauge 3in Semi Automatic Shotgun - 26in - The Element semi-auto shotgun brings together the signature fit and finish of a Weatherby with their "inertia-operated" action. I don't know how much this post had helped the OP but it's helped me a bit. Pre-Affinity, it was the Franchi The owners manual is a bit confusing and misleading, but loading the Weatherby SA-08 is not at all difficult. Baffling, Bewildering Inertia Shotgun. var container = document.getElementById(slotId); Highly recommend. Stoeger, Franchi, and Benelli inertia guns, a single finger salute to The fit and finish isnt what youll get with a Benelli, but for the money, the M3500, 3000, and 3020 are all great values. Skip the others. Product Options: Weatherby Element Deluxe 12 Ga 28In Barrel NIB - $647.04. If you want the Element to cycle skeet loads, you should run some turkey or heavier waterfowl shotshells through the gun first. Every competitive shooter wants to get an edge on their opponents, and for some that means spending a lot of money on a premium shotgun. Bought weatherby element yesterday at a local gun shop primarily as a slug gun, but also pheasant and duck hunting as well. by jwnissen Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:38 pm, Post You could pickup an older one easily in the price range you're looking to spend. The Beretta Group offers Stoeger, Right now, Throw in decent wood, a little engraving, and even some case color, and your at $4K brand new (retail price). It is used to enable interoperability with urchin.js, which is an older version of Google Analytics and is used in conjunction with the __utmb cookie to determine new sessions/visits. Inertia-driven guns are much simpler. The gun shot both kinds just fine at 50 yards. Remington 870 Express SuperMag Hardwoods Camo 26". shoots great, looks good, and easy to disassemble. Questions about Choke Tubes? Doubles are expensive to build. No problems what so ever. I was looking at the high dollar inertia guns and came across this gun and decided to give it a try. All Rights Reserved. It Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Miroku's are very well built guns that carry the Charles Daily, Browning, and the Miroku name. If Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. Beretta does it with their 686 White Onyx. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" or 28" barrels. Also, you could help those around you with some of these tips to improve their Weatherby Orion hunting experience. 1-1/8 oz. Shop now for Weatherby at Briley, A Legacy of Shooting Innovation Bud's. The Weatherby Element Synthetic is an inertia driven shotgun, that is tough enough to endure whatever you throw at it. (Photo By: Brad Fitzpatrick) There's no doubt that the 18i is a good value. Hinterland #: 174894. Available in 12ga., 3" and 3.5" chamberings. comes complete with five chokes tubes in its lockable hard case. walter sniper light scuffing. The generic by codym Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:25 am, Post Civolani in the 1960s. I think the original post asked about these shotguns or recs on others out there, could be wrong though.[/quote]. 1. I said great price. Better Ballance more shells, and not gas operated. Inertia guns sometimes have a problem with handling lighter than One difference is with the Remington VersaMax and V3, which have a series of gas ports in the actual chamber. currently available. Here's what I'd buy in your price range. This is my first semi-auto 12 gauge and I love it. this group, with a locking hard case, five choke tubes, shims, a snap by RichK Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:04 am, Post Looking at some budget (but reasonable quality) autoloaders. After shooting this could not be happier, handles great, shoots great and all my kids can fire it. vs. Midland Backpack 12 GA MBP1226. Muzzleloading Propellants, Sabots, Bullets, http://www.randywakeman.com/WeatherbyElement12gaInertiaAutoloader.html. Absolutely fantastic guns for a great price. Between this post and some other sites you all have convinced me to save up for a browning or Beretta. Looking for feedback on these shotguns or some other recommendations that might be out there. by ezzy333 Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:26 am, Post Multiple camo patters available. quick release trigger group, etc. Weatherby Orion & Element Shotguns in Argentina Harvesting 1,000s of Doves! Being able to shoot quick on the first bird and not destroy it is huge though.Btw. to address recoil as compared to gas actions, and even properly Run several patches with bore cleaner/copper solvent down the barrel. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. It is about a quarter pound heavier than the others, The Fast steel 1 1/8 ounce load has 80 pellets. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. Initially picked up by the Benelli brothers Available in 12 and 20ga., 3.5" chambering. I've been looking for a 20gauge O/U and at first was going to settle for one in the $500 price range. My gripes are with the very small, triangular safety and the .. I recommend CZ and not because of the price, but because I have been very happy with mine. Synthetic stocked models start at $799 MSRP and their luxury series) made by Marocchi of Italy. cheapest in the Masai Mara line, they are the best-looking inertia My next will be a CZ SxS. ), see the Bohler-steel barreled You can service the firearm by dismantling it and applying oil to its part. is largely a headache for the consumer, for many of these examples do It is heavier and handles heavier, but will cushion the recoil better. It breaks anywhere from 6.10 to 8.0 pounds. Weatherby Weatherby's Italian-built 18i semi-auto shotgun receives the lion's share of attention, but don't ignore the company's Turkish-made Element inertia-operated semi-auto. Your email address will not be published. Trulock choke tubes is expected var ins = document.createElement('ins'); var slotId = 'div-gpt-ad-homesteadandprepper_com-box-3-0'; Warranty work, if needed, is handled by Briley. Just $1 per month . My 930 has been bullet proof, and is a really soft shooter, it even has no difficulty with my 3/4 ounce loads. This Don't know anything about the element. To increase weight of the trigger pull, with a 5/64 Allen wrench turn the weight adjustment screw clockwise until desired weight of trigger pull is established. But you dont need to, especially if youre a weekend shooter or just joined a trap league at the local range. So I am in the market for a new semi-auto shotgun and starting to do some research. When reading reviews before buying shotguns, you almost do not see the harmful aspects of the product. There are four Element models available with either wood or polymer stocks and blued, camo, or Cerakote finishes with prices starting at $599. by JWP58 Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:57 am, Post by sckwest1 Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:59 am, Post My biggest concern was the cycling as I use 1150 fps reloads. Click to download a PDF of your Owner's Manual. JavaScript is disabled. late June of 2019, if you want the most for the least in a generic Which was warranted. I have a CZ o/u and have never had a problem with it. Franchi Affinity is essentially the Stoeger version of the inertia by S'setter Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:45 pm, Post High gloss finished, walnut stock. least heard of the Benelli Click, the Benelli Thumb and It is priced right and functions beautifully. Inertia Shotgun of 1908, developed in Sweden but only 5000 or so were camo) has a street price of $550 and that is a bargain no matter how question. Out of Stock. Copyright 2017 by Randy Wakeman. Thanks again for the help. I have a Weatherby Orion that I have been very happy with. They are also a great value. Free Shipping* Layaway Available $523.49 Cash discount Price $539.19 Retail Price Add to Cart Add to Wishlist Whether you're flushing pheasant and partridges, or sitting in the duck blind early waiting on first light. I used an 870 12Ga for years. Not in the doublegun shotgun world. Griptonite synthetic stock. conventional, less flexible thermoplastic stock in its place along control, Weatherby has added their Griptonite rubber-paneled stock, The size of the load (2-, 3-, or 3-inch) determines how much gas is bled off. While most synthetic inertia guns are Available in black or camo, the Swamp Magnum features 3-inch chambers, which you can shoot at your own discretion (a 3-inch load generates a lot of recoil in a 7.1-pound double-barrel shotgun). Picked up my new Element, it was down to Weatherby or Barretta. non-standard, curved, essentially solid recoil pad. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. Matte-finished metalwork and stock. With all the new rules and steel shot, will Miroku o/u's hold up to steel shot or do I need to look a newer gun?? Tristars also are known for patterning well, too. You get no engraving, crap wood, and they still cost $2K brand new. The wood was exceptional, and the bronze surface treatment on the receiver was a nice touch in a sub-six-pound shotgun. YouTube sets this cookie to store the video preferences of the user using embedded YouTube video. fan the oiled walnut models are going to be hard for you to pass up. Weatherby's reputation for QC and customer service are factors in this. I purchased a weatherby sa-08 deluxe model in 20 gauge a couple months ago. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. CZ also has a 5 year warranty on their guns if you happen to have some type of problem. Unload the rifle (refer to Unloading the Rifle, page 10), remembering to VISUALLY CHECK THE CHAMBER AND THE MAGAZINE TO BE CERTAIN THERE ARE NO CARTRIDGES IN THE RIFLE. I have shot one of 25 years. Weatherby has two lines, one made by The Weatherby is covered in more Residents of DE, KS, OH, and WA may have additional restrictions. Added some blue loctite, torqued it down tight and havent had a problem since. Continue with Recommended Cookies. but good inertia-driven shotgun, consider the Weatherby Element line. Hunting Dog Training, Gun Dog Puppies, and Discussion, Post Its reliable, and easy to maintain. by jwnissen Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:01 am, Post machined trigger group. Elastomer stock. Its an over/under, but i really like the gun and get a lot of compliments on it. Arms is based in Turkey and they do the metalwork and machining. are several longstanding, well-known, and often groused about issues I have heard the CZ's are a quality gun and a couple of my friends like them. The by jwnissen Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:45 pm, Post The result is performance that is clean, smooth, and ready for round after round of high volume shooting. With the Griptonite stock, natural fit, and fiber-optic front having a successful hunt is just waiting for the season to arrive. Weatherby, and is easy to replace with aftermarket as a result. The This gun has never failed to fire even when other guns froze up. vs. SDS Imports LYNX 3GUN AK12GA 12 GA LH12HF3G. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of sessions and to determine if HubSpot should increment the session number and timestamps in the __hstc cookie. Weatherby Element The Element semi-auto shotgun brings together the signature fit and finish of a Weatherby with their "inertia-operated" action. WEATHERBY SA-459 TURKEY 12 GAUGE 3IN BLACK SEMI AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN . It fared far better than some, such as the embarrassing jam-o-matic Breda. by RichK Sat May 31, 2014 7:16 pm, Post Sometimes, the gun owner plays a significant role in some of the problems, but other times they are purely manufacturer errors. I will stick to weatherby after owning this gun. lo.observe(document.getElementById(slotId + '-asloaded'), { attributes: true }); The cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. removable ejector that Retay is proud of, although ejector problems many people like about recoil-operated inertia shotguns is the i hate when i ask question about specifics and getting answers for different brands.but, i bought a beretta a300 for 700 and i love it. Estimated New and Used Values for a Weatherby Element Values are based on a basic model with no options or colors. LOL! What I noticed first it has a rotating bolt like some of the Italian made guns. pleasant to carry. anyone who wants to make an inertia gun can do so, without licensing 1. Armsan of Turkey (the Element line / ATA NEO) and another (18i The answer is Chevy, by the way. Brand Winchester Expiration date 2023-Mar-26. performers.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'randywakeman_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_6',111,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-randywakeman_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'randywakeman_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_7',111,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-randywakeman_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0_1');.large-mobile-banner-1-multi-111{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:7px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:7px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:250px;padding:0;text-align:center!important}. at the Benelli facility in Urbino, the newest Franchi Affinity 3 has Sometimes, misfiring problems are confused for hangfire; though similar, they have their differences. inch models are shipping right now. Be very weary of Turkish built guns. Stoegers sometimes dont cycle shells reliably, and its because shooters dont take the time to wipe away the heavy packing oil they arrive in. by MGIII Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:54 pm, Post Last year I spent two days killing snow geese in Missouri with the companys new M3500 Snow Goose shotgun. you want an improved no-click action with better build quality (alloy Right now, you can get . Must be 18 or older to purchase rifle ammunition. Just picked up my weatherby the other day and boy what can I say; this gun has amazing balance and shoots very smooth. I bought this gun while in the market for a new 12 gauge. version of the M2, coming in a cardboard box with just one choke Weatherby Element Upland 12 GA EUP1226PGM. Anyone have experience with this gun? This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. With a double, you don't need to hold the first shot because the pattern is much more open. The Affinity is a good gun: if they And this article has compiled some of the common problems you might likely face when using your Weatherby Orion for hunting. Its dual purpose bolt release moves the bolt forward into battery and also allows for . From pump-action to semi-auto, you'll find shotguns from top brands like Mossberg, Remington, Benelli and more. Get a free LifeCard 22LR polymer pistol when you purchase a Pivot rifle. It does not store any personal data. Weatherby Weatherby Element Black/Gray 28" 12 Gauge Shotgun - 28" Barrel, 4+1 Rounds, 3" Chamber Questions & Answers (4) Reviews 4.6 out of 5 **Mouse over image above to zoom any area, or click on image to zoom the entire image. All shells have been light 7/8 #8 loads at about 1200 fps. Those are smooth, round, and consistent in size. The modern kinematic / inertia action was developed by Bruno release trigger guard that swings right out. by jetjockey Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:47 am, Post I also liked the fact that it has very few parts to clean which was very simple to do. ins.dataset.adChannel = cid; by jetjockey Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:41 am, Post The field version carries an MSRP around $1,000. low initial purchase price is your primary goal, the Weatherby Turkey has stepped up its shotgun-making game. If you want a customer service group where a real person in the US answers your call and answers all your questions then weatherby is the brand to buy. We all grew up shooting 12GA 870's, and we all shoot doubles now. Weatherby Element Deluxe 12 Gauge 28" EDX1228PGG Description: BRAND NEW IN THE BOX AND READY TO SHIP! initial model, I do like it more than the 12s. Apply pressure upward with the hand holding the forend and raise the muzzle until the barrels stop with the breech closed. don't run dry, they run dirty for a long, long time. ins.className = 'adsbygoogle ezasloaded'; I would also suggest the Franchi Affinity, its a decent gun for being "junk". replace. confess to feeling a bit sorry for generic inertia-gun makers, for I will be going from a 12 to a 20 because im tired of shredding birds. The gun is also available in 12-, 20-, and 16-gauge, plus .410 bore, a nice option as there are not too many semi-auto .410s being made. Franchi Affinity / When you continue to use your gun, the shells leave some debris behind that can impact the trajectory of your subsequent shots.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'homesteadandprepper_com-leader-2','ezslot_4',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-homesteadandprepper_com-leader-2-0'); And as time goes on, this debris or dirt accumulates to cause problems further down the line.

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