Then, take 100% worth of war score demands on top of those rebel enforcements, including annulling their treaties. The guide also assumes that players know the basics of the game, such as constructing buildings, managing armies and finances, and conquering new territory. I usually like to set out goals. Make sure to take the cities of. . By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the. Valve Corporation. is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. The best way to beat any AI is to let them bleed all their manpower in small stacks, so try to and block the Bosporus if you have naval advantage and let small stacks through (small here being less than 20k or so), then wipe them with a numerical advantage. Edit: and why is my force limit only 73k when theirs is 175k :(. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Last game i played as france and struggled to fight the ottoman military, simply from the overwhelming manpower. I'm on 700 development with 89 provinces, they're on 878 development with 93. Of note, Ottomans actually lose lucky nation status in 1700. You can also take some holdings on the Arabian peninsula to make future conquest easier. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. I'm just trying out Muscovy once more after not having played for while and lo and behold the Ottoblobs get Crimea for free. If you are fiercly religious don't make it your mission to take their clay and convert it but force their country to answer to your god. Pick one difficult achievement from steam (preferably one that is owned by less than 1% of players) and start a campaign with that achievement as a goal. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. So it's 1638 and I'm planning to attack them before they keep blobbing land. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. It's kind of irrelevant though, because even though I have almost two times the total development of the Ottomans, they still have a much larger army and stronger allies. The Ottoman troops are better than European troops for a large part of the game because of their bonuses, and the fact that they have increased pips. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. If you're lucky, you might start a dog pile. A mysterious list, a small Hungarian town, and unimaginable horror. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. At the time the achievement fired it was all of France and Netherlands essentially. Next, occupy Constantinople and vassalize Byzantium. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, take. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. Prussia and Commonwealth are capable of wiping out numerically superior Ottoman armies. Try to disconnect their capital from asia. Also always have a military advisor, either a 5% discipline one or a +10% morale one. Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. Late mid-game and late game their troops have become much worse though, and if you play western tech you can usually crush significantly larger Ottoman armies in that period. Venice still owns Crete, and Genoa still has a bunch of islands in the Meditteranean, as well as outposts in Crimea. Gotta love EU4 logic. There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. So keep picking at small stacks. Arabia shouldnt give you any issues. As many as you can. You wont gain cores on them, but. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. If you manage to get to around 60% war score, then you could demand a province with a fort that you haven't occupied. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. Ottoman Empire became modern day Turkey lol. You wouldn't have much issue at all. Which, if any, DLC do you have? I recommend annexing any vassal that has no more foreign cores you can take. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission to. I'm currently playing a commonwealth run and even dominating muscovy (they still exist but not really) and colonizing siberia, they have double the army/manpower size i do. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. Next, focus on supporting rebels and destabilizing them. Although you can speed up conquest by using diplomatic entanglements, wars with the Mamluks will mostly be you chipping away at them over time. However, prevent the Russians from getting any land south of the mountains by taking out any Georgian state that might still remain. I was playing as Byzantium and was able to defeat the ottomans with Poland Austria and Hungary in Early game so just save scum until you can beat them. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Just tried this out but the blasted PLC AI was hell bent on losing and had to delete the save since I'd already given up half my country to separate peace Aragon. Although its tricky to avoid, its possible to increase your chances to keep Fezzan alive long enough to let it fall into your sphere of influence. Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. Anyone who dislikes Spain is your friend, in this case. If they have a weaker ally (Tunis is often good for this), DOW on them; this will drag Ottos in, but without the benefit of their powerful allies. This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. . You can beat them in the early, middle, or late game. Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. The Ottomans are in the best position to come back from a humiliating defeat. Later on, the Ottomans don't have janissaries and your units should be just as good as theirs. Most states are weak, meaning you can diplomatically conquer most of them.. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission toConquer Al-Ahsa. Ally (a couple) big nation(s) to make them not want to attack me to give me time to prepare. Purchase some mercenaries in Benghazi and siege down at least one of Fezzans provinces, like Sirt. You deal with their numbers by stackwiping their troops with quality and composition. You can now complete the missions. Even with my main allies France and Venice (60kish each) we're still not as powerful as them combined. Valve Corporation. I also connected my Crimean holdings to the mainland, so I can defend it more easily. I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) Get them to a high war exhaustion and then white peace them. Play Burgundy for example and it's all going to be right there in one region. You'll generally need a good amount of mercenaries. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this, The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. Cav are kinda weak at techs 14 to 16, making their cav combat ability less scary (they also miss a cav upgrade at 14). Cordoba is a landlocked province, so its tricky to fabricate a claim. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. The longer you drag the war out the better. Imo wars in eu4 are less about fighting and more about sieging, especially later in the game with the Imperialism CB where you need to siege your opponents capital down asap for easy WS and WE. I personally wouldn't ally (all) big nations around the Ottoman. Just make sure you can control your allies, and that their armies aren't so small as to be wiped instantly by the Ottoman hordes. Uncover the secrets of Hidegpuszta in this classic survival horror, Remorse: The List. ThroughHumanistideas andTradeideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. If you have built up your nation in the 1650-1821, you should be able to handle them as Spain. Is there actually a way to check to see if Janissary Decadence is fired, or do I just have to declare on them and see who gets stackwiped? In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now. The Otto's will refuse that peace deal, but suffer a stability hit. Through, ideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. Take at least, More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. Now that youre the Caliphate, the world truly lies at your feet. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Allies are arguably the most important point. If Warscore is left make them pay war reperations (remember that you also get 10% from every loan they take, so rebuilding is a bit harder for them) and release countries. In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. You can assign far-flung territories to trade companies to help you bring in some extra ducats. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Currently Spain. Didn't require too much manpower to take them out. The decision makes your country more stable and lets you easily convert all your lands to Sunni if you didnt take humanist ideas before or are really into that. I easily beat them, even stack wiping them sometimes. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. Meanwhile, you shouldve gotten Sicily sieged down by now. However, fabricate claims on Palermo and Messina to make it a lot cheaper, should you need more land. Can you afford mercs? Fight them after tech 14, they will no longer have pip advantage from troops. Those penalties are insignificant compared to being able to remove them quickly. You need to provide at least cursory information about your situation if you want help. The Mamluks control Egypt and Syria at the start of the game, but were historically conquered by the Ottomans in the 16th century. For more information, please see our They still haven't taken out mamluks. Time to make some new friends, I guess. Take forts. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. Welcome to the third and final part of this Ottomans guide for EU4: The Ottomans made easy! Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. Wait for an opportunity. At this point, you might be running into government capacity issues. You can now also complete the missionConquer the Levantto grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. If I recall right, Imperator Rome has a button to let the AI manage your armies: you can order to siege forts, provinces, defend territory, etc. I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. and since my goals are quite small and achievable I usually. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. Decent generals, high morale and good army tradition can be of great help. I had about 100k troops and France, Austria, Venice, and Brandenburg on my side and we all got crushed, leading me to believe the Ottomans are just naturally supposed to dominate. High debt and high war exhaustion means rebels which means even more trouble for them. For the nations you choose to play and the courses you chart for those nations. The only way to stop the Ottomans is to overwhelm them on multiple fronts, since their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. AE won't matter (No one will really care if you gut the ottos except maybe hejaz?). Spain might lend a large army in Morocco, so be wary when and where you attack. You can also shoot forParisian Pasha. I believe I read one time that war exhaustion goes down in relation to your demands, so you if demand nothing then you hope their country explodes in rebels. You have expanded into what is fairly worthless, empty, lands on the steppes, whereas the Ottomans have most likely expanded into the rich cities of Anatolia and Egypt. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. If you focus on taking down the Ottomans you can't be giving them respite. After that it can become too costly and dangerous to challenge them, up until 1750, when the game triggers them to decay. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Make sure to take the cities ofAdenandMasqatas soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. Ally other countries that have navies. I used to wait until late game to roflstomp them with my Vodka-fueled endless spacemarines but this is no longer an option, since on very hard they blob endlessly and since we share a border in Crimea, war will come. I'd probably invade Ottomans when they're busy fighting multiple wars and you might even be lucky enough for separatists to break off small chunks of their empire. Youll gain claims on this area with the missionConquer Mocha, that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. Depending on how large the Mamluks are, you can finish them off before 1600. If youre allied to Naples, call them in only now. Here is a selection of ten games releasing in March 2023 that we think you should be looking out for. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. Don't just make it all Light Ships. Rinse and repeat to make them a non-factor eventually. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. Normally it's about 100-120k? Let me know your thoughts in the comments! This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. A country Im supposed to take over is allied with a bigger and stronger country. The Caucasus mountains provide a valuable defense. I might be able to get France on my side too. Poland/Lithuania, Russia, France, Austria, can be very useful if you gang up on the The Ottomans. Aside from sealing off the Black Sea and connecting your territories, theres mostly no need for you to conquer anything north of the Caucasus mountains. If you can't do that, at least guaranteeing them (if you're strong enough, of course) will keep the Ottos out for some years, wait for them to be on a long war, cancel the guarantee and attack after the truce. This is especially true if the PLC and Russia blobs as they end up all hating each other. It shouldn't be hard man .. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when theReligious League Warfires. Getting the war goal and war score to go up, gives the chance for a good peace deal which makes them weaker and every following war with them easier. Youre very powerful around this time, so allies might be willing to become vassals. Press J to jump to the feed. Keep a continuous Spy network on Tunis to expand faster towards the Atlantic coast. Another front for you to not worry about! It's probably a bit late now anyway, once I finish my first game I'm getting a couple of the DLCs and probably not playing as Lithuania again. Video: Great Khan Achievement with Mongolia. Watch if you can either go around it by declaring war on an ally, vassalizing the state instead, or ask it kindly to break its alliance using the Great Power status. And dont forget to fabricate a claim, of course. It's a bit cheesy though. Over the years, hes developed a similar passion for writing, which he mostly gains during his studies. You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. You need to win those navy encounters fast. Im playing an Ottomans game right now (going for the Dar al-Islam achievement) and its very easy to get an absolutely insane army force limit by doing just two things: reaching the end of their national ideas, which gives +50% army force limit, and also by reaching the end of the Quantity Idea Group, which I believe also doubles your force limit. Like my Burgundian Conquest run, where I was super rich and powerful, but my nation was not much bigger than France is at the start. Fortunately, the Tunisians cant be everywhere at once. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. The next war should be much easier. This selection contains highly anticipated releases, sequels, ports and some f We're in the home stretch! The Serbians, Bulgarians and Greeks can easily be swayed to revolt if you let the Ottomans drown in war exhaustion, keep them occupied, wait for the rebels to rise up, then sign a peace and let them deal with the problem. its either that or biga), sinope, amasya. The more of it is under your control, the less will be under the control of the Spanish. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. Helping out AI friends and building up long term rivalries and friendships can break the monotony. As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. If you have questions do please leave them below and I will answer any and all that I'm able to! THIS CAMPAIGN IS BEST VIEWED THROUGH THE PLAYLIST! Are the Mamluks still around? Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. In the previous part, we covered the remainder of the Age of Discovery and built the Ottomans from a major power to a powerhouse. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. You can beat them as an immediate neighbor or as someone who doesn't border them for centuries. Either kick them in the teeth very early, or wait till later in the game after their power has fallen off. Honestly, when I want to kill them, I just don't stop declaring war. This war can be tricky, so it can be useful to curry favors with important allies that can distract the Spanish, like France, Russia, Britain, or even Bohemia, Scandinavia, or Naples. This is typically when other great powers take their opportunity to declare war on the ottomans so they end up fighting 3 wars at once. I just said in a different forum two days ago that WitE would be a much better game if Paradox had designed the UI. Look around Ottoman. 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